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From The Vault: Jon Nadler On Gold's Current Highs Not Sustainable
Written by Lara Crigger   
July 02, 2010 12:00 am EDT

 

Even though gold has backed off a bit in recent days, it's still hovering around historic highs, closing at $1,224.10/oz on May 17, 2010. And given the recent euro crisis, interest in the yellow metal—from both individual and institutional investors—is at a fever pitch.

But don't get swept up in the hype, says Jon Nadler, metals market analyst and PR head for Kitco Metals, Inc. The precious metals expert says gold's real fundamentals support a much lower price, one we'll soon return to once the euro crisis is over.

With over 30 years' experience in precious metals markets and investment, Nadler is a well-respected authority on gold. He writes a popular daily gold market commentary for Kitco, and his metals expertise is frequently sought out by the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, Reuters, the Associated Press, Financial Times, CNBC and more.

Recently, HAI Associate Editor Lara Crigger discussed gold fundamentals with Nadler, including why everyone needs a 10 percent gold allocation, what a demise of the euro would really mean for the economy and why he sees gold closer to $800 than $8,000.

 

Crigger: So why do you think gold's back up near its historic highs? Is it just the euro crisis, or is something else fundamental going on here?

Nadler: Volatility and nervousness are both on the rise. We did see a fresh high last week at about $1,250, so it's backed off of that. But let's not ignore the rest of the metals complex here. Silver's off $.50 [as of May 17, 2010], platinum's off more than $60-$65 and palladium's down $20. The dollar continues to be quite strong, and oil's down almost another $2. So there's definitely a lot of turmoil in the markets, which is primarily related to the euro situation. But I think the focus here is once again misplaced.

Last fall, I cautioned about the non-imminent demise of the U.S. dollar, which everyone was promising us. Back when gold went to $1,226 in early December, we were guaranteed that this is a currency in its final stages of demising, and that it would be done away with as the reserve currency of the world, and this was the reason that gold would actually land on the moon. Obviously, none of that happened. And not only that, but the dollar has risen very substantially since then. It remains the benchmark for settlement of global trade, and is still represents more than 60 percent of global reserves. It's not demising. It's not about to go away.

Crigger: Of course, now we're starting to hear the same sort of talk around the euro.

Nadler: Right. The same talk that was directed at the U.S. dollar is now (curiously) being repeated, just that now, such talk is aimed at the euro and by the same people who said the dollar would fall off the proverbial cliff. They're saying: "It's OK that the dollar's rising; we'll take that. It'll die later."

So what are these people really telling us? Are they really proposing that all of these currencies are really dying in concert, and that we're going back to gold as the only viable currency? I'd love nothing more than for that peg to be re-established, but sadly, since 1968, that's been a process largely undone. As much as we love gold, the reality is that it's been marginalized in the global system. It only represents 0.6 percent of total private global wealth. So, it will not, and it can not, be the total panacea to cure what currently ails the world.

So the present driver of gold prices is this European debt crisis. There may not be as much concern about it spreading as there had been in the past two or three weeks, but rather, concerns remain about the efficacy of the rescue package that has now been put into motion, about possible future defaults, and, of course, about whether the euro will demise and be replaced with national currencies again. So over the past week or so, I think it has come down to a battle of the wills: the speculative funds versus the financial officials in Europe. It's a game of chicken. One side is calling the other's bluff.



 

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Comments (16)

 Monday, 05 July 2010 1:50 EST - Posted by Rob

 
Let's see what will happen. Nadler is a cynical anti gold intellectual. Maybe he gets payed by the US government to write and and comment on gold like he does. After all, gold is the ennmy of the modern state and to hire a person like Nadler is peanuts for the US government.

 Monday, 05 July 2010 2:34 EST - Posted by bobert

 
Keep it civil, folks.

This comment has been unpublished for violating the terms of use of the HardAssetsInvestor Web site.

 Tuesday, 06 July 2010 22:57 EST - Posted by Smeg

 
does he really believe that ETF's are backed by physical gold? pfft what a puppet

 Thursday, 08 July 2010 10:02 EST - Posted by Mr. McFeely

 
Nadler's writings are glib and superficial. He almost never provides any objective support for his opinions. He just spews...

If you are trying to learn something about the gold market, and not just be provoked, there are so many better choices out there.

Frank Holmes owns Nadler in June 6, 2010 "Great Gold Debate"

www.kitco.com/KitcoNewsVideo/kitco_news.htm

 Friday, 09 July 2010 11:49 EST - Posted by frankania

 
The trouble with gold is that it is hard to sell; it cannot be eaten or lived in.

In a real crisis, I would rather have real-estate, long-term food and goods, solar panels, vehicles, liquor (you can drink it or trade it) etc.

 Friday, 09 July 2010 11:52 EST - Posted by Richard

 
I wish investors and households would allocate 10% in physical gold. This would cause the price of gold to skyrocket.

Everyone, please take Nadler's advice on investment allocation.

 Friday, 09 July 2010 20:43 EST - Posted by Jimbo

 
Nadler a well respected expert on gold?

Why don't you put up his predictions versus what has actually occurred with the PM prices.

Now ,THAT would be informing.. but I won't hold my breath

 Friday, 09 July 2010 20:46 EST - Posted by honestann

 
Keep it civil, folks.

This comment has been unpublished for violating the terms of use of the HardAssetsInvestor Web site.

 Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:56 EST - Posted by bobert

 
to frankania:

everything you mentioned depends on something else. gold depends on nothing. read your history :)

 Saturday, 10 July 2010 5:09 EST - Posted by Juno

 
Newsflash - Recent central bank involved with GOLD SWAPS to back debt, first such use in over 30 years. So much for Nadler's theory. See the following:

www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page103855?oid=107700&sn=Detail

 Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:33 EST - Posted by big dog

 
I am going with gold over paper in the next 10 years!

 Monday, 12 July 2010 17:59 EST - Posted by Sean

 
Nadler was pushing Rhodium 'sponges' (?) a while back. I guess Kitco had more of this in inventory then actual physical gold. Personally, I'd rather have a stack of Philharmonics in my safe than a sealed, plastic bottle full of pixie dust. I do like the way they 'clink' together.

The guy's obviously a professional gold-basher, but works for a precious metals retailing firm. WTF? With the huge mark-up they put on coinage & bullion, you'd think he'd be pushing the product, instead of the lies. Maybe they've finally started running out of those gold-plated tungsten bars.

 Monday, 12 July 2010 21:59 EST - Posted by Michael B

 
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Dormant ETF's kept a lid on the price of Gold?! WTF?!
What about the market absorbing an extra 346 Tonnes (11.1 million Ounces) of gold from the secret BIS Swap(s) at the same time? It took that much excess supply in addition to dormant ETF’s to keep the lid on the price.
In addition, Jeff Christian’s confirmation of the fact that LBMA sells 100 times more paper gold than "real" gold (insisting it is industry standard), which diverts money from the actual bullion and suppresses its price.
Then of course there is the massive manipulative short positions on the COMEX in Silver and Gold by JP Morgan, et al. They justify these by saying they have offsetting longs on the LBMA. We know now that those longs are all paper, which means that paper (which can be printed in infinite amounts) is actually determining the price on the COMEX and LBMA and not the actual metals.
That situation goes against everything the Commodity Markets as well as Commodity Law stands for and negates the entire market pricing mechanism, since the prices are all fictitious. There is no real price discovery. Every day more people are learning of this Ponzi scheme the bullion banks have been running which makes Bernie Madoff look like a piker.
Nadler has been doing all he can to talk Kitco's Book in order to protect the huge "short" position resulting from their pool accounts. They accept money from people and don't buy any PM's. Just ask Morgan Stanley, who lost a suit in 2007, for charging people for bullion and storage and never buying the metal to put in the vaults. Morgan Stanley insisted this practice is industry standard also, by the way.
Kitco makes its real profit from pool accounts, not by selling Eagles and Krugerfands. It also helps suppress the price of Silver & Gold in addition to the other schemes going on.
The supply of real bullion is going to Asia, India & the Middle East while they pay for it by giving us back our own worthless dollars.

 Tuesday, 13 July 2010 1:52 EST - Posted by bobert

 
kitco offers nothing that cannot be found on other sites. above comments make my case. why even bother with them.

 Tuesday, 13 July 2010 14:18 EST - Posted by neville

 
This comment has been unpublished for violating the terms of use of the HardAssetsInvestor Web site.

 Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:12 EST - Posted by Brad Zigler

 
ENOUGH!

This space is for comments on the substantive content of articles, not for lambasting authors or commentators.

Most especially it is NOT a place where one's ethnicity is to impugned.

Resorting to ad hominem attacks and name-calling is immature and a poor substitute for cogent argument.

Please restrict your comments to the substance of a contributor's remarks.



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